The first thing we realised is that we needed a bigger team. Everything we have achieved to date has been in our own time and we knew we needed help. It was at this point that we brought in Georgia Barretta, who coincidentally is now a CD at Cheil herself and Penny Othen, a freelance marketing and social media consultant who helped us bring the initiative to life from design to the website to the overall strategy. It has definitely been a team effort.
Emma kicked it off by interviewing her then Group CEO, Richard Warren. From there we had a platform to recruit more interviewers and have been lucky to have some great people step forward to do, in many cases, their first ever interviews with men they have identified as changemakers themselves (although some also interview the men that have been nominated by previous Token Man). We are super grateful to all our interviewers which include Bridget Beale (Managing Director at BIMA), Sally Henderson (co-founder, Pello), Diane Young (MD at the Drum), Kat Gordon (Founder of 3% conference), Caitlyn Ryan (ECD at Cheil) and Eloise Smith (ECD at MullenLowe Profero).
My favourite interview has been the one with Karen Blackett but that’s simply because it was the first interview that I was able to do myself rather than simply sitting on the sidelines and managing the process. It gave me an appreciation of the hard work that goes into getting an interview right and making sure the most important questions are asked and answered. Karen is super inspirational and it was fantastic to hear about some of the things she has been doing at Mediacom which are really smart.
The truth is though I find value in each of the interviews as I am always learning something new and it is good to see some of the good work that is already happening. If you are interested, here is an overview of the best bits from the interviews so far.
The gender pay gap is a really complex one and unfortunately cannot be answered with one single answer. There are a number of factors that contribute which include the increased propensity for men to ask for a pay rise, unconscious bias, lack of flexible working for parents, impact of maternity leave and evidence to suggest that women are less likely to do training after becoming a mother.
Fortunately the gap is closing which is really important, especially when it comes to parents. Childcare in the UK is one of the most expensive in the world and this consequently puts pressure on the breadwinner to continue working following childbirth. As more and more women earn more than their male counterparts, it should hopefully encourage more men to take longer paternity leave (according to NABS only 2% of parents took up shared parental leave during the year following the legislation change) and help change the ratios at most senior levels as well.